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LUN



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maco CMA wrote:

Does Arcadia except scores that have been made with a glitch? If so maybe a random glitch happened on the game involving the counters.


Probably. In fact I was thinking about a thing you can note on the PS2 version. If you die and pause just after it, you can note that the counter showed is way higher than the one you had before the death. A little glitch. But if you find a way to keep that huge counter after th death...

Btw, let me understand another thing. Are you using A and then A+ instead of A+ and then C+? Is this the way that let you obtain 200.000 at the scorpion? Interesting. I don't know if that could be useful during a full run (actually I doubt), but hey, it's still damn interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LUN wrote:
In fact I was thinking about a thing you can note on the PS2 version. If you die and pause just after it, you can note that the counter showed is way higher than the one you had before the death. A little glitch. But if you find a way to keep that huge counter after th death...
I’ve already tried to exploit this by trying to die at the same time as firing a bomb.
Couldn’t get it to work though (firing a bomb and dying at the same time.) so I’ve no idea if it would have worked.


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Btw, let me understand another thing. Are you using A and then A+ instead of A+ and then C+? Is this the way that let you obtain 200.000 at the scorpion? Interesting. I don't know if that could be useful during a full run (actually I doubt), but hey, it's still damn interesting.
Same as the trace method, you use A+ to increase the laser counter, but then start C+ a bit later than you usually would.
When M-Power isn’t powered up the A shot length/height is only 2 shots, so if you use the right auto-fire frequency (I can’t find the notes I made for the PS2 setting, but it’s easy enough to workout if you need me to.) the A+ increases the counter almost as fast as the C+.

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M-Power A+.                   \ /
                              \ /
                                       -- Gaps are where the counter increases.
                              \ /
                              \ /

                              \ /
                              \ /


 C+ in comparison.            \ /

                              \ /

                              \ /

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maco CMA wrote:
I’ve already tried to exploit this by trying to die at the same time as firing a bomb.


Why this should keep alive your counter?

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Gotcha. It would be interesting to see full runs with M-power like the Maniac player on the dvd wanted to do. But in a normal run I don't think this could be really useful. Just out of curiosity, how many points can you get at the end of stage 2 with 200.000 after the scorpion? 90/100 mil?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LUN wrote:


Why this should keep alive your counter?
I don’t know if it will, I was just trying things that are in someway connected to the counter.

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It would be interesting to see full runs with M-power like the Maniac player on the dvd wanted to do. But in a normal run I don't think this could be really useful. Just out of curiosity, how many points can you get at the end of stage 2 with 200.000 after the scorpion? 90/100 mil?
The best score I got just from stage 2 was 81mil, before the scorpion I probably had no more than 3mil, I haven’t tried much though.
Maybe a bit higher is possible, though it’s probably not worth it as I’ve had 71mil with W-Power.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe a bit higher is possible, though it’s probably not worth it as I’ve had 71mil with W-Power.


Definitely not worth it! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I corrupted my Mushihime save by somehow switching the PS2 off while it was saving, the first time I’ve ever had a memory card corrupt on me too.
Luckily it didn't effect other games saves, just Mushi.

Btw, there is an interesting glitch if you leave the game to demonstrate level 3 having chose Arrange mode on the scoreboard.
I don’t think it’ll work outside the demo though…
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maco CMA wrote:
I corrupted my Mushihime save by somehow switching the PS2 off while it was saving, the first time I’ve ever had a memory card corrupt on me too.
Luckily it didn't effect other games saves, just Mushi.


Same for me some months ago, I don't know how. I've lost the 50 mil original run, for example. Btw, who cares, I still have the pic and still can do better Wink
Talking about you: what are your scores or goals?

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Btw, there is an interesting glitch if you leave the game to demonstrate level 3 having chose Arrange mode on the scoreboard.
I don’t think it’ll work outside the demo though…


Can you explain it?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My goal is to score as high as I can. Smile
Atm I’m just using practice mode, with my stage scores being:

St1 - 7.6mill - An old score from last year.
St2 - 71,306,526.
St3 - 217,009,706 - With death at end of level and not including boss.
St4 - 188,297,018.
St5 - 299,952,714 - Without boss.

Currently my main focus for practice is stage 3, but my consistency is crap on all levels so far. Hopefully it’ll improve when I start doing full runs (when I’m happy with st3.).

On the demonstration glitch lots of those small glowing blue insects appear, I don’t know why.

Bad quality pics of glitch:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/maco_cma/mushi1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/maco_cma/mushi1b.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow maco nice to see you being fully into another shmup again.after ikaruga i thought you were more or less dead, i had absolutely no clue that youre playing mushi on such a high level. Shocked
are you going to try some full runs after figuring out stage 3?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I can’t keep away, when I stop playing shmups I constantly think about playing them again. Embarassed

After I’ve got stage 3 sorted, I’ll be doing full runs yes.
Hopefully I won’t get RSI or something though, my hand kills after holding A and A+ together nearly all the time.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might start posting random score updates in here.
I got 201,629,866 from stage 4. Shocked

I’m finding stage 3 frustrating at the moment, improvement seems slow compared to the other stages.
I think 300mil will be my max stage 3 score and only if I’m lucky.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If those scores are from single stages you're riding the damn right way! Start with full runs immediately Wink

Why do you hold A and A+ together, btw? I have this setup:

A - B - C
A+ - C+ - X

And I like it. No need to hold A and A+ at the same time, maybe you mean C and A+.
Anyway, what kind of frequencies are you using at the moment? Damn, I'd need another strong A+ Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah they're from single stages. Smile

I meant C and A+ sorry, and my button layout is the same.
My A+ is set to 4 and C+ 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A theoretical score of ~800 mil is really impressive. Stop practicing and start with full runs NOW! Smile

About the button layout: the A+4 means that you charge the child counters manually, right? It's a thing that I don't like to do anymore, that's why I'm using 14 for ULTRA. And, incidentally said, I'd like to add that you need different A+ for Maniac and ULTRA if you want to increase child counters. Enemies seem to die a little bit faster in Maniac, or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked sin moon if he knew how the 2billion scores are achieved.
The reply was:
“2 billion uses a special button with the power improvement missing. Special button can put out RapidFullAuto in speed 2 and laser at the same time.”

Now we need to find out how to do this. Question


LUN wrote:
A theoretical score of ~800 mil is really impressive. Stop practicing and start with full runs NOW! Smile
Cool

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About the button layout: the A+4 means that you charge the child counters manually, right?
Yes, it's important because stage 2, 4 and 5 mid-bosses require different A+ tapping speeds for the optimal counter increase.
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