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brianon
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: Looking for Twin Cobra/Kyukyoku Tiger Hi Scores/WR |
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Hi Guys, My first post
I'm trying to compile some sort of leaderboard Euro & International of Twin Cobra & Kyukyoku Tiger high scores. Both arcade and mame.
Got this from the AIVA web archives...
KYUUKYOKU TIGER�� �(TWIN COBRA) - SPREAM-I.Z - 10.000.000+α
Not sure even if is Twin Cobra or Kyukyoku Tiger.
Anyone got anymore scores ?
I've compiled a list of scores from MARP, shmups.com, Twin Galaxies & ArcadeHits but nothing there matches 10mil! Maybe the list could be taken as a western leaderboard but certainly not a WR leaderboard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Brian. |
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Cowboy-NOA
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 249
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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The WR score from the Gamest magazine is as you said:
Kyuukyoku Tiger - Spream-I.Z - 10.000.000+α
Since a score over 10mil counts as a counterstop, this is the highest score you'll ever see. Of course it's achieved on the japanese version (Kyuukyoku Tiger) and not on Twin Cobra. Due to the counterstop issue, Kyuukyoku Tiger is unfortunately not too interesting for highscores.
However a western leaderboard would be more interesting (since we can't get the counterstop ) Could you please post your western/mame leaderboard here?
Oh, and of course you'll never find any world record scores on any of the western sites you've mentioned. The Arcadia/Gamest scores are always higher than theirs. _________________ SELECT YOUR FIGHTER AND BASTARD THE ENEMY |
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brianon
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Hi. Thanks for the reply
I'll post the scores i've got for sure. (All Twin Cobra btw) none for KT.
A pity about the counterstop. I love that game.
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1 5,000,320 MARP WCH
2 4,141,340 shmups mulletgeezer
3 3,747,290 MARP NoMercy
4 3,645,000 shmups DEL
5 3,557,840 Twin Galaxies Martin Bedard
6 3,042,380 MARP Guinness
7 2,725,030 MARP Midas
8 2,504,650 MARP BBH
9 1,988,090 MARP destructor@HotTeam.pl
10 1,900,450 Twin Galaxies Greg Sakundiak
11 1,816,170 MARP ZwaX
12 1,804,200 Arcade Hits majygool
13 1,638,710 shmups ch'timi
14 1,585,590 MARP bubble
15 1,580,750 Twin Galaxies Shannon Ryan
16 1,531,790 MARP EMPTY-BOY
17 1,527,060 shmups PlasmaBlooD
18 1,509,910 Twin Galaxies/MARP/shmups Didier Sénéchal
19 1,281,360 MARP/shmups Edge
20 1,226,030 MARP shinobi
21 1,197,900 MARP/Arcade Hits FOXMULDER
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Nothing there to match 10mil+ alright
| Quote: | | However a western leaderboard would be more interesting (since we can't get the counterstop Wink ) |
You mean we aren't good enough or Twin Cobra hasn't got the counterstop issue KT has ?
| Quote: | | Oh, and of course you'll never find any world record scores on any of the western sites you've mentioned. The Arcadia/Gamest scores are always higher than theirs. |
When you mention Arcadia you mean AIVA ? What are Gamest scores ?
btw, the sources for these acores are ...
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MARP http://marp.retrogames.com/r/twincobr
Arcade Hits http://www.arcadehits.net/mamescore/view.php?r=twincobr
Shmups http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=1265&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Twin Galaxies http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&g=twin+cobra
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Do you know of any other sources ?
I'm working away to try to get my MAME score up onto that leaderboard. A counterstop is not a target I have any hope of getting
The source are from arcade, pcb, MAME (TC World & TC US roms) and I know for most in the list from which source they are from.
One final thing. Some players had score on both the World rom and US rom. I only ever counted each players highest score. So if a player had 4mil in the arcade, 3.5mil on MAME. I just counted the 4mil.
Cheers,
Brian. |
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Cowboy-NOA
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 249
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks very much for the scoreboard. Looks like not many people have played KT/TC seriously.
| Quote: | | You mean we aren't good enough or Twin Cobra hasn't got the counterstop issue KT has ? |
I'm quite sure Kyuukyoku Tiger and Twin Cobra are both counterstoppable. And yes i mean we aren't good enough or haven't tried yet.
Oh and what exactly are the gameplay differences between KT and TC ? Is TC any easier or are they the same?
| Quote: | | When you mention Arcadia you mean AIVA ? What are Gamest scores ? |
Arcadia magazine (formerly know as Gamest) lists all new world record scores achieved in the japanese arcades. Basically there isn't a single shmup where a westerner has beaten a japanese player.
AIVA was an italian site that had all Arcadia/Gamest scores online but now it's unfortunately down forever. Luckily i have ALL the scores regarding shmups stored on my computer and most of it is online in the WR topic on this forum. If you miss a shmup there just drop me a pm. _________________ SELECT YOUR FIGHTER AND BASTARD THE ENEMY |
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brianon
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Its all becoming clearer now
Differences between TC & KT are that in TC when you die you respawn immediately whereas in KT you have to restart the level.
So KT would be more difficult but I guess at scores of 5+mil thats maybe not such an issue as they probably wouldn't be losing many lives and once they lose one the rest probably soon follow.
I'd love to know the high scores for Raiden alright.
Does that table look accurate for what you know in Europe ? Do you know of any non-Japan players counter stopping TC/KT ?
Cheers,
Brian. |
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Cowboy-NOA
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 249
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Differences between TC & KT are that in TC when you die you respawn immediately whereas in KT you have to restart the level. So KT would be more difficult but I guess at scores of 5+mil thats maybe not such an issue as they probably wouldn't be losing many lives and once they lose one the rest probably soon follow. |
Thanks, so the differences are not really important.
| Quote: | I'd love to know the high scores for Raiden alright.
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I'm going to add Raiden, Raiden 2 and Raiden DX scores soon. Raiden and Raiden 2 were both maxed out at 10mill (counterstop again)
Raiden
Excel-HIR - Autofire - 10.000.000 (counter stop)
Vegeta - 10.000.000 (counter stop)
Raiden 2
? - Autofire - 10.000.000 (counter stop)
Vegeta - 10.000.000 (counter stop)
BTW Mills has counter stopped Raiden. See the top western players for reference
| Quote: | | Does that table look accurate for what you know in Europe ? Do you know of any non-Japan players counter stopping TC/KT ? |
To my knowledge no western player has counter stopped KT/TC yet. _________________ SELECT YOUR FIGHTER AND BASTARD THE ENEMY |
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brianon
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| cheers. |
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